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Events / 25 12 Christmas - Winter Solstice
« on: July 16, 2010, 12:08:07 PM »
Christmas or Christmas Day is a holiday  observed mostly on December 25  to commemorate the birth of Jesus, the central figure of Christianity .
See also Easter and products on Easter.

Religion, the greatest story ever sold !
God doesn't need religion, people in power do to control the other people. HOLY SHIT!


Winter solstice had throughout history links with Christmas,
since most religion and new age are based on astrology and astronomy , going back to Egypt, 4000 BCE. And YES, those flood_(mythology) stories have no divine meaning, it's just the last ice age!

Our 12 month calendar is through astrologyand astronomy based on the 12 constellations of the zodiac, in Egypt there were 12 months of 30 days, with 3 weeks of 10 days, A year holds those 360 days and 5 extra days in the Egyptian calendar.
So religion and new age are based also on this principle.

12 SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

And before that there was the era of the goddess, the aeon goddess back to 833.000 BCE!!!! when Matriarchy ruled the community.



Also, our Latin alphabet comes from Egypt, the Proto-Sinaitic alphabet, viewing the history of the alphabet , but not the hieroglyphs itself. See also List_of_alphabets and Genealogy_of_scripts_derived_from_Proto-Sinaitic

Our 2x 12 hour clock day is also based on Egyptian time.


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Adam and Eve / Adam and Eve were BLACK!
« on: September 26, 2009, 11:23:12 AM »
Adam and Eve were black !

50.000 years ago  ALL our ancestors came out of Africa, and were black!

Discovering Religion: Ep 12 - Arrival of Man (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

See 92 min. English The Human Family Tree

And in 500 years we all have a nice shade of mokka.


Earlier human history:
Discovering Religion: Ep 11 - Human Origin (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

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Earth Mother / Woman Aeon Goddess
« on: September 25, 2009, 09:39:59 PM »
Forget Bible, Talmoed and others........ women are worshipped from 800.000-5.000 BC.

It's time to bring her back

“It is shocking to realize how little has been written about the female deities who were worshipped in the most ancient periods of human existence and exasperating to then confront the fact that even the material there is has been almost totally ignored in popular literature and general education. Most of the information and artifacts concerning the female religion, which flourished for thousands of years before the advent of Judaism, Christianity, and the Classical Age of Greece, have been dug out of the ground only to be reburied in obscure archaeological texts, carefully shelved away in the exclusively protected stacks of university and museum libraries.”
-Merlin Stone, When God Was a Woman


   If the idea of a 15,000-year-old nearly-worldwide goddess religion is hard concept to wrap one’s head around, then consider a possibility even more mind-boggling: the oldest feminine figurine that has been found comes from Berekhat Ram, Israel, and was discovered between volcanic layers has been dated from between 800,000 and 233,000 years ago. That means the figurine was carved before homo sapiens or even Neanderthals existed! It was most likely carved by homo erectus. The figurine is a rock formation made of volcanic tuff that has a natural resemblance to a woman, but microscopic analysis has shown that someone has carved grooves for a neck and arms. Another figurine found in the town of Tan-Tan, in Morocco, Africa, was discovered in 1999, this one made of quartzite and was at one time was painted with red ochre. This is significant because both the Venus of Willendorf and the Venus of Laussel was also covered in red ochre. Neanderthals, as well as “modern humans” from ancient Chatal Hyuk are known to have colored skulls with red ochre for cultic purposes as well. Like the Berekhat figurine, a human-like image had already been formed on the stone at random before being found and enhanced by grooves to emphasize it’s naturally anthropomorphic appearance. Although the gender of the figurine is uncertain, a rounded-looking bosom does make it more likely to be female. This one has been dated from between 500,000 and 300,000 B.C., so it too was probably carved and colored by homo erectus. There is no proof of any kind of cultural relationship between these early carvings and the later Venus figurines, but it seems remarkable that both of them bear the appearance of a woman rather than a man. Even if there were dozens more female figurines of similar condition dated back to these primordial times, it would still be nearly impossible to prove any kind of link to the later ones, but the discoveries bring the spotlight on a question that would otherwise be unthinkable: could the carving of fertility goddess idols be an unbroken tradition that’s even older than the species?

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Venus of Berekhat Ram, dated between 800,000 and 233,000 B.C.




Venus of Tan-Tan, dated between 500,000 and 300,000 B.C.


The Age of the Goddess

   The written word has certainly been the most useful tool for gathering history about ancient religion. Oral tradition always changes with the teller and it takes only one link in the generational chain to break for the entire tradition to be lost to the void. With the revolution of writing came the ability for future generations to understand the world on a larger scale, and it is due to the lack of it that we only know about 5% of the human story (or 0.1% of the hominid story). But there is another accessory of mankind that has given us a glimpse into the dark age of human illiteracy: the idol. Throughout the final fifth of our lost tale of the homo sapien, stone statuettes of a large-breasted woman were carved into soft stones such as steatite, calcite, or limestone have been discovered throughout Europe and Asia. Although archaeologists have been extremely reluctant to provide any definitive explanation for their cultural significance, the most common sense answer is that they represent religious iconography. What makes this very remarkable is that that’s nearly all that is known to have been carved throughout Europe and Asia for about 15,000 years. With this kind of pedigree, the Venus figurines are doubtless the most far-reaching cultural practice unearthed by archaeology. What other cultural belief or practice can claim to have traveled so far or has been around for so long? What’s more, how did such a practice get to be so widespread in a time before cities or roads or a known written language?
   The majority of these statuettes, carved in either stone or ivory, hold key recognizable features that prove cultural solidarity: a featureless golf-ball head, tiny bent arms covering immense sagging breasts, a swollen possibly-pregnant belly, gigantic hips and buttocks narrowing down to pin-size feet. The “Venus” figurines portray an unmistakably original, yet they have been found across France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Turkey, Israel, the Middle East, Russia, and as far east as Mal’ta (a little north of China). The overwhelming predominance of feminine statuettes over masculine ones gives unmistakable evidence that the principal representation of God for the majority of homo sapien history has been that of a woman.













Prehistoric “Venus” Figurines discovered throughout Europe and Asia show a remarkable resemblance to one another

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   Little can be proven regarding the beliefs of those who carved the Venus figurines those thousands of years ago, and despite many shared characteristics, there has been a great reluctance to identify her as the same earth goddess known throughout Paleolithic Europe from 7,000 to 1,700 B.C. But the significance of the lack of variety in these idols through such a large amount of time and space I believe suggests something that is unthinkable to historic sensibilities: prehistoric monotheism. This seems incredible because by the dawn of written word, the world was almost entirely polytheistic. The first archaeological evidence of monotheism being practiced is that of the cult of sun god Aten in Egypt in the 1300s B.C., started by the “heretic” pharaoh, Akhenaten, and it is not generally believed to have gone very far. Adam is usually dated to 4004 B.C., but it is Abraham, who is believed to have lived some time around 1600 B.C., who is usually given credit as being the first monotheist. Today about 53% of the world believes in one God due to a monotheistic revolution that spread throughout the western world starting with Judaism and Zoroastrianism some two millennia ago. Although Judaism now only makes up 0.2% of world religions today (and Zoroastrianism making up far less), the monotheistic revolution spread to both Christianity (33%) and Islam (20%), and now maintains a slight majority in world opinion. If these idols really are heirlooms from a long lost monotheistic age, then perhaps we can think of there having been a polytheistic revolution that took place some time before the first known language. This may have been linked to the establishment of cities, in which city councils began to take on a larger role in centralizing governments, which mirrored the concept of a “council of gods” that governed the world.
   The predominance of feminine iconography must also prompt us to re-evaluate the way history looks at prehistoric man. How can we reconcile this predominantly feminine form of veneration with the common portrait of ancient life consisting of violent social groups ruled by instinctive alpha males who follow the animalistic urges of their Freudian Id and horde the tribe’s women as concubines? Were women completely dominant over men in some long lost matriarchal age? Or was the figure not so much a glorification of an actual deity but more of an abstract symbol of life? The lack of information begs for speculative bridges to be constructed. Certainly the Venus figurines show a centralization of culture far surpassing the conceptualizations of ancient humans worshipping ad hoc gods that differ from tribe to tribe.

   Although no Venus figurine found has been dated after 12,000 B.C., I beleive that there is good evidence the goddess did not immediately die out with the advent of civilization. Excavations of the Neolithic settlement in Chatal Hyuk, Turkey, dated to around the 6700’s B.C., have turned up a far greater number of “earth mother” figurines over that of the male god, one of them being a large goddess sitting on a throne flanked by two lions. Hundreds of bear goddess figurines have been discovered around Celtic Gaul and Britain and dated to 5,000 B.C. The figurines portray a mother bear nursing her cubs, which has had a long association with feminine fertility. In fact, the term to “bear children” comes from this association with the bear, in that the Scottish word for child, “bairn,” is derived from the Anglo-Saxon word for bear, “beran.” Sumerian statues dated to around 2,000 B.C. portray the fertility goddess Inanna with features too similar to the Venuses to be coincidental: large breasts covered by small hands and a barbell shape very reminiscent of the prehistoric Venuses. Although the Sumerian statues have faces on them, the same bead-like circles of the Venuses can be found around their head and pubic area. There are also a lot of contradictions within Sumerian sources as to how Inanna fits into the Sumerian pantheon’s family tree, which suggests the deity was embedded into the mythology at different times by different people. Unlike most of the other gods, who are repeatedly referred to as bull gods, Inanna’s totem animal is that of the lion. However, the connection between the Paleolithic Venus figurines and the goddesses of "earth mothers" of Chatal Hyuk and the Sumerian societies have been greatly contested, most especially due to the absense of archaeological evidence in the intervening Mesolithic era between 11,500 and 7,500 B.C.





Goddess figurine from Chatal Hyuk with lions on each side of her









Inanna figurines shows wide hips and hands-on-breasts exhibited by Venus figurines


   As explained in the prior chapter, Inanna was part of the death and rebirth cycle along with her lover, Dumuzi, an earlier manifestation of Dionysus, who symbolized the cyclical change between the summer and winter season that lie behind the Easter and Christmas holidays. To the monotheistic Jews, Inanna was the abominable Ashtoreth, or “Lady of Shame.” The author of Revelation refers to her as the “whore of Babylon.” In the Akkadian language of the Epic of Gilgamesh, she is called Ishtar. She would later be known to the Syrians as Sybil, to the Assyrians as Mylitta, to the Canaanites as Astarte or Asherah, to the Egyptians as Hathor, to the Hittites as Shaushka or Ishtar, to the Greeks as Aphrodite, to the Romans as Venus, to the Norse as Freya or Ostara and to the Saxons as Eostre. It’s from this Anglo-Saxon name that we get the name of our own holiday marking the seasonal change of the Spring Equinox. The Easter bunny and the Easter egg are also both rooted in pagan fertility symbolism: the bunny because of its reputation for accelerate proliferation and the egg for it’s association with new birth.
   Naming the ancient figurines after the Roman goddess of love was not a conscious attempt to link the ancient goddess to the Roman one though. The name stuck after it was first used by the Marquis Paul de Vibraye in 1864 under the name Venus Impudique, or “Immodest Venus,” to describe a heavily damaged and particularly slimmer-looking goddess statue made of mammoth ivory. It was meant to be an ironic reference to the term Venus Pudica, or “Modest Venus,” a term used to describe a classic pose in Western art in which a nude female keeps one hand covering her private parts. This was made to contrast the unashamed depiction of the feminine anatomy on the ancient figurines with that of the more modern “modest” portrayal in western art. The pose, however, that of hands holding or covering the breasts, is comparable. If it’s possible to trace the fertility goddess from prehistory to the Sumerians, Canaanites, Hittites, Greeks, and Romans, the name may have been more appropriate than the Marquis had imagined.


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Modest Venus


Immodest Venus



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About this site / About this site -old version
« on: February 10, 2009, 04:24:55 PM »
Hi,

this board is based on a idea dating back 15 years or more, to collect and publish all on several subjects which we think can be gathered under the name SKULL. Horror, Gothic, NWO you name it.
Over those year we have collected numerous pictures, documents, links on the related subjects.

For pictures we possibly will add a seperate bulkboard, not that you can download those in bulk ;-) but that we can upload those in bulk and not havinf to name each one...

We don't want to exclude you from any information, so we don't have grades of access.
We don't pretend to be the Supreme Council of the Higher Knowledge of Whatever Ridicilous Stament ;D

Perhaps in the future we will introduce higher grades if we find soulmates regarding some matter so they
get higher status.
That will not depend on any degree or diploma or age, but mostly on common sense and interesting views on the matter.
So if your 13, and even a girl ;-) and you say something we think WOW, you may granted a higher grade. :o

Offcouse it will take some time to get things started/filled, so be patient. (We've waited 15 years...)

Maintaining a board like this cost money, so please visit our sponsor or donation module... :-*

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Astrology / The truth shall set you free !? 1
« on: January 17, 2009, 03:45:41 PM »
Astrology of the Old Testament1892

The ancient history of the Egyptians, Carthaginians, Assyrians, Babylonians 1754

True Origin of of religion
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Celestial Origins of Religious Belief (repost) (Embedding disabled, limit reached)
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See also

http://www.sacred-texts.com/

http://www.crystalinks.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_9ZyddjaM4&eurl=http://www.flixya.com/video/1574905/ZEITGEIST,_Part_1_Debunked_Acharya_Responds&feature=player_embedded#hq (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5tr7m_astrologa-astrology-subtitles-in-sp_lifestyle (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

Carl Sagan on astrology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iunr4B4wfDA&eurl=http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=zeitgeist&hl=nl&emb=0&aq=f&feature=player_embedded#hq (Embedding disabled, limit reached)
What he misses is that acient astrology which most believe orginated 20.000 years ago had more to do with harvesting, seasons and countries, places then with "personal" horoscopes which became popular since the 1800's.

Your personal astrology forecasts for today
Based on place of the sun in the zodiac for the day. (so not for your time of birth ;-) )

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History of Astrology / Personal astrology.
« on: February 15, 2009, 02:04:52 AM »
there are two forms of astrology. the mundane astrology, the oldest one and the newest one which also gives personal horoscopes.

Attached you'lle find a document on the newest form: the personal astrology.

Pdf btained thru p2p.


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How to find info on countries / Sources
« on: January 21, 2008, 04:46:01 PM »
Earth, the (only) world we'd ever known



https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html
More information on countries

http://www.ethnologue.com/web.asp
Lanuages of the world

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/
Speak languages for holidays or fun

http://www.travelstoremaker.com/ibe/ceesboog/porch
United World Travel Reservation

http://www.wwitv.com/portal.htm?   Worldwide TV Streams

http://www.tvradionetwork.com/index.php?id=00000670m5%20    Worldwide Radio Streams
http://www.bmovies.com/    B-movies via internet
http://www.bmovies.com/    horror science fiction kung-fu western

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/?area=%C3%A2%C5%92%C2%A9=eng%E2%8C%A9=eng
Global Disaster and Emercency Alerts Map

http://cc.rsoe.hu/?pageid=alertmap_index
Global Climate Change Alerts

http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=51.5566,3.9771&m=6&t=2"
Wereld, Netherlands after searise

http://www.tvradionetwork.com/index.php?id=00000670m5%20
Worldwide Radio Streams

World TV Toolbar, 1300 tv kanalen

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Astrology / 2012
« on: February 16, 2009, 04:56:39 PM »
Enigma 2012, the beginning of the end or just a new begin?

The pale blue dot, Carl Sagan
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Enigma is also a german band with meaningfull songs:
(See AMAZON for their cd/dvds)
Return to innocence and
Goodbye Milky Way( in 5000 million years ;-)
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About Year 2012
The year 2012 is the subject of a great deal of attention.
According to Mayan prophesy, when the sun rises on December 21, 2012, it will be the first time in 26,000 years the sunrise will pass through the Milky Way's plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic crossing of sorts is considered to be the incarnation of the Sacred Tree, often referred to as the Tree of Life for the entire world.

Some people believe this date marks the end of the world, but this interpretation could be a bit drastic.
Others believe the date actually signals a transitional period between ages, one that will witness wars, negative environmental changes and destruction. Society in general will experience a constant state of chaos.
Once the world passes through this transitional period, it is said that it will enter a time of peace and harmony.

Mundane Astrology predictions for 2009-2014 period
While many discuss the validity of mundane astrology, many studying the area note many historical cycles which involve the transit of outer planets through the zodiac and the different aspects they form.
One particular example will be a grand cross that will occur in summer 2010 when Pluto, Uranus and Jupiter and Saturn and Mars will be at 0-3º Capricorn, Aries and Libra, respectively, while inner planets transit at 0-3º Cancer.
This is assumed by astrologers studying mundane astrology that it shall be a time with many great challenges and dramatic changes.
This aspect resembles another grand cross that occurred during the 1930s
Mundane astrologers trace back these cycles to decades and even centuries before, when Uranus transited Aries last time in 1930s and 1840s, and Pluto transited Capricorn last time in 1760s and 1770s, which were decades of many revolutions and changes.
The cardinal alignment of 2010 is also a continuing square between Pluto and Uranus, which occurred last time in the 1960s and the 1930s and will occur between 2010 and 2014.
Therefore, mundane astrologers predict dramatic changes (economic, social, military, scientific) to occur again in the years ahead. (wikipedia)

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Gothic / Gothic Girls
« on: October 24, 2009, 10:33:30 PM »
Gothic Girls

Victoria Frances & Louis Royo


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About this site / Galleries!
« on: October 24, 2009, 06:29:28 PM »
Adding some 1000's (animated) pics, sounds, movies in galleries:


at first Album 4ourdegrees.net with pictures, sounds,movies relating to Horror, Gothic in general.


From october 2003 to oct 2005 4ourdegrees.net was the #1 online source for horror clipart..! We will put up a article about them soon...

Viewable by members.
Available to donors and VIPs.

When done it will be announced here!

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Bible / God didn't CREATE the world as we know it !
« on: October 10, 2009, 10:38:03 AM »
The poetry of Genisis

The first story is found in Genesis 1.1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The Hebrew word "bara" is a verb and is usually translated as "create". To really understand what this word means let us look at another passage where this word is used.
The word "bara" does not mean, "create" (Hebrew actually has no word that meaning "create" in the sense of something out of nothing) but "to fatten". If we take the literal definition of "bara" in Genesis 1.1 we have - In the beginning God fattened the heavens and the earth. What does this fattening of the heavens and earth mean? This verse is not showing the creation of the heaven and earth, but rather the fattening or filling up of it. Therefore, Genesis 1.1 is a condensed version of the whole creation story.

   If God did not (and does not) have the power to create out of nothing the materials for the creation (as taught by the Mormon church), then he is not omnipotent. He is limited by the matter that allegedly already existed, matter that was co-eternal with him. Because he is limited in his capabilities he is not all powerful. This idea is also supported by the idea that this god also had a beginning, he was once a man that progressed to become a god.

God schiep de wereld niet (dutch)

Wolde, terug naar het begin (not working urlpdf, dutch)
http://www.ikonrtv.nl/kerknieuws/documenten/Oratie_van_Wolde_DEF.pdf

een nieuw begin

Genesis 1,1-2 blijkt niet een tekst te zijn die gaat over het absolute begin in de tijd, maar over het begin van een bepaalde handeling. Vervolgens blijkt de handeling waarover vers 1 spreekt, niet ‘scheppen’ maar ‘scheiden’ te zijn. En het begin van die scheiding betreft de hemel en de aarde en niet het derde kosmische deel, de ondergrondse water- massa of  , die reeds bestond en blijft bestaan.

Dus deze tekst vertelt niet over een creatio prima, een eerste schepping, niet over een creatio ex nihilo, over een schepping uit niets, en zelfs niet over
een schepping uit chaos.
Integendeel, het opent zijn vertelling met een enorme watermassa waarin monsters leven, en die gehuld is in duisternis; daarnaast bestaan er op
zijn minst nog goden waarvan er één de oppergod is. De vertaling van de verzen 1-3 wordt dan:
 In het begin waarop God de hemel en de aarde scheidde,
  en de aarde ongegrond was en zonder fundament,
  en duisternis over de diepte lag,
  en Gods adem zwevende was over de wateren,
  zei God: ‘Er zij licht’.

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Earth... the final frontier.. space? is just the next ...captain Kirk ;-)


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Who speaks for Earth?
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Religion / James Randi Speaks
« on: October 03, 2009, 02:09:18 PM »
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. Small | Large


My Horoscope - Questioning the Bible - Why Do We Still Believe -Its Not In The Name
and others

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